"DJ" by Wuhling. The Right to Remain Silent Thu Jan 20 with Dante on WPRB Princeton 103.3 FM

Good evening Dante!

Evening!

Good evening, Dante. Will you be back in the spring, or is this your (next to) last show ever?

Good evening Andy and AndrewT

Hi Rob!

Hey all!

Hi Dante! 👋 Hey Andy, Rob & Andrew

Hallo Christine

I will hopefully have a show next year - potentially switching every week with ameena :D

*season...

I hope so, Dante. *fingers crossed*

thesis brain fried - seasons and years are the same lol

Loving this song! Swaying to it while wrapping up my post-show chores!

Our fingers are crossed too. This is one of my wife's most favorite WPRB shows

This song is every which way.

What is your thesis on, Dante, if I may ask?

California☆Roma is the only band I know of that has a star in their band name

is that even allowed?

It is allowed if they ⭐ did it

well this is extremely charming

thesis is on basically NYT reporting on saturation bombing, defoliation, etc. of Nature ('ecocide') and environmental infrastructure ('environcide') of Vietnam between 1965-1971

tracking shifting/continuities in ecological thinking, nature/culture dichotomies, etc

fun stuff!!

Thanks, Rachel!

That sounds interesting, Dante, and also depressing

Good heavens! The legacy of Agent Orange, sigh.

wow dante - does sound important, what you're doing thesis on! good luck - i remember that thesis "season" - or i guess it

it's "theason" as my typo was going to say!

most interesting take away is that 1965, bascially no NYT reporter even mentioned the destruction of Nature, some shifts to that in 1968, and who knows about 1971! (still have to research it...)

To echo Rob, that does sound both very interesting and depressing, @Dante. Good luck! ✨

will always remember the music i listened to on repeat during last days of thesis, including the pre-release copy of a certain album that we PRBers got on tape and copied for each other - got me through!

it hasn't been as bad working on it as I thought it would be - but I did take absolutely forever to pick a topic :/

My thesis playlist is a lot of Twee and Japanese New Age healing music heheh

The first Earth Day was in 1970. I wonder if that might have had an effect on reporting in 1970 & 1971

Twee is healing

hi dante ironically just watched break down of Col Kilgore scene in apocalypse now last night when he wants the tree line taken down

very curious about that too @ Rob. The shift from 1965 for 1968 was not huge but a couple of reporters did first use "ecology" as a term in relation to Vietnam in 68

mostly tho, didn't care at all

i'm embarassed to say I've never seen apocalypse now @ mark!

just want to be clear I found the music charming and not your thesis which that would not be an apt descriptor for at all lmao

I'm very impressed by your thesis topic. Keep up the good work, my man.

whoa ! It’s a must watch for the thesis if even just for that scene Coppola wife did a great documentary on the films making that’s just as fantastic

Beekeeper!

@ Rachel hahah that's what I thought. Can't imagine there's too many charming theses out ther

there

Thanks @ Marcus!

seems your excellent music playlist will get you through all that the thesis will require!

@Dante I second watching Apocalypse Now for your thesis. I saw it on initial release and it was definitely harrowing

I definitely have to now. Only Vietnam war movies I remember seeing is Tropic Thunder (hahaha) and Forest Gump (not a vietnam movie)

apocalypse now will inspire you, if that's the right word- in its harrowingness

I haven't seen any other Vietnam movies and I am not going to

Famous Rob from Maryland 🦀

ha with out giving away too much you have to mentally prepare yourself before seeing I saw a new directors cut in Philadelphia theater a couple years ago

My homework for tomorrow is to check out & listen to Tomato Flower

and dip back into Beekeeper

Sorry not sorry for the emo set 👍

I am emo-curious though it can be a little too bombastic for me

oh man. i still haven't seen schindler's list either - another movie to mentally prepare for!

Tomato Flower is also on Ramp Local - record label for former PRB DJ (for 2 seasons I think) Jake of Jake and Rachie

so pretttty close PRB connection there

I'll try to keep it bearable @ Rob. I like to think i find tasteful emo hahah

Dante, be as emo as you want!!!

If not here, where? If not now, when? 👍

Kubrick’s full metal jacket is another intense one but not quite as entwined w nature as apocalypse you’ve read heart of darkness ? Apocalypse basically an updated version

The Unbearable Lightness of Emo

jimbeaux ++++

jimbeaux 💯

The Unbearable Lightness of Emoji

Right, mark! Full metal jacket very good. And Conrad's story of enviro and human exploitation in colonial Africa similar to Vietnam

I liked the Dagons song, and this Nymb song is good as well

Platoon was another good movie, not necessarily about Vietnam, though.

Haven't read heart of darkness - on the list

and thus ends the film review portion of wprb chat :) I am now very interested in how the thesis turns out

heart of darkness a must read before view Apocalypse

Dispatches by Michael Herr is an incredible book on Vietnam...he wrote for both the Kubrick and Coppola films!

Read Dispatches just a few weeks ago! Great read

I've really enjoyed quite a few correspondents books - Malcom Brown's the New Face of War is very interesting too (1965) and a pretty obscure one by Ward Just from 1968

*called To What End?

Oh yeah, Ward Just!

The Right to Remain in the Litterbox

Ever read John Keegan? Mask of Command and the Face of Battle are both quite good.

been meaning to track down that Herr book especially wanted to read his section about Sean Flynn the photo journalist

keegan definitely sounds like he has some interesting takes!

Errol Flynn son & Dennis hopper’s character loosely based on on him

loooooooove this!

This is delightfully bloop bloop bloopy

Music with space a day earlier :D

New release, too! Nice!

darkwave 💜

Got any Efrim Manuel Menuck?

ah is that the guy from GSYBE!?

That's him! "Pissing Stars" is an interesting ambient/noise release from 2018.

Don't think I have him but will add to the list

looks right up my ally

*alley

melted brain\

Also check out Bull of Heaven, good dark ambient stuff.

I am LOVING this segment

And hell yeah The Bug

This track and the one before it are haunting, in a cozy way.

i loved both of those tracks - they fit perfectly together tooo

bug bug bug

36 mins is correct lol

only correct if these last few scary sets didn’t bend time ;)

radio nightmares

OK, this sounds like the internet, lol.

I used to have nightmares about math class.

haha Dante maybe change your thesis to nightmares you’re inducing with this show The last hour + has been great !

hahah this track in particular is pretty nightmarey

makes me think of Hironimus bosch painting

Perfect mental picture, @Dante

did you say you’re filling for Kat tomorrow? maybe should save some of this to play after Jerry’s Room :)

Yep filling in! Will the 3-5PM crowd like this kind of thing hahah

Diamanda Galas meets Cabaret Voltaire?

it’s been great tonite not sure if I’ll relisten to the 3am rebroadcast can’t imagine how scary it’d sound then

thank goodness for the chat so I’m not listening in total isolation- are you in studio ?

broadcasting from home - not nearly as scary as the studio would be

haha that’s what I was thinking

Now I get it! That's why jimbeaux said The Right To Remain In The Litterbox. LOL

(delayed reaction)

Thanks, Dante!

Beautiful ending for the show, thank tyou Dante.

Thanks for a great mix tonight!

"Broadcasting From Home", a Penguin Cafe LP?

Thanks all for listening!

I should play Penguin Cafe tomorrow

that's 3-5PM appropriate

well I have to say I would’ve turned it off if didn’t have the company of the chat Great show

chat does make everything a lot better :)

would have been too spooky by my lonesome Shoukd see you tomorrow

Spoopy 💀

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